absolutangel64

I lean pretty hard to the left, so I’m definitely not a Repub or Teabagger, er, Tea Partier. But, here’s what I think the deal is, in summary:  All Tea Partiers are Repubs, but not all Repubs are Tea Partiers. Make sense? Maybe members of either (or both) of those groups can correct me.

Tea Partiers are kind of a sect of the Republican party.  They hold to the Constitution moreso than most others, akin to Libertarians.  At this point, who knows.  Country is f*cked.

If you liken it to a nightclub, the Republicans are like the hot girls the party wants to attract.  The Tea Partiers are the fugly chicks that they need to let in just to pack the house.

Instead of posting something that may be misleading I’ll just refer you to google so you can read the wikipedia page.  lol

I love your posts.  I think its interesting how you structure it.

The Tea party is a corporately owned political organisation that claims to be grass roots and more concerned about the constitution.   I would characterize the tea party more as a movement with a certain rhetorical style rather than having a substantive ideology of it’s own. They were a response to the wide-scale disapointment Republicans experienced after the administration of G.W.Bush
Their rhetoric expresses that the problems that face this country are not complex and can be fixed simply by deregulating, naming the bad guys, and assuming they have the correct interpretation of the constitution.

To contrast a tea party perspective with that of a Bush-era Republican.  GW Bush said that Islam was a religion of peace and distinguished radical muslim terrorists from Muslim’s in general.
Very few tea partiers will recognize a distinction.

Tea parties claim their party is intended to restore the constitution but fail to appreciate the complexities of constitutional precedence.

They are superficially libertarian, Rand Paul was the head of the tea party at one point. Libertarianism is a problematic ideaology to begin with and this is reflected in the tea party. If liberty is the emphasis, it neglects to address different concepts of liberty.

They take pride in the view that they are a conglomeration of small town ideas.  My personal opinion is that this is one of their undoings. They assume that small town america has the same vision but in reality provincial people have the view of their province and do not find agreement with other groups.  This is why since the tea party became powerful in the Republican party most of the parties presidential candidates were too extreme in some degree to gain significant support. They tried to bring out their small-town values, but people from different small towns beleive different things.  Compare Sara Palin to Rick Santorum.
Both claim to have small town pride and hostility to non-christian religions, but very different values in their interpretations.

 

The general distinction is between social movement and political party. The Tea Party is a social movement that wants to mobilize ordinary people, influence public opinion, and shift public policy. The Republican party is a political party that wants to win power/office, coordinate resources/campaigns, and pass legislation/set policy. Tea Partiers usually vote for the Republican Party in elections, since it’s the closer of the two parties to their ideology.

Who r the kitties voting for!

Tea Partyiers (TP) espouse an overly simplistic, unrealistic, supremely naive, and provincial stance.  They do believe the answer is in the Constitution.  They also believe the government is too big and is too intrusive.  Additionally, they are generally anti-spending and for lower taxes.  They tend to either support the Republican Party or feel the Republican Party (GOP) is insufficiently supporting Tea Party ideals.  The TP is largely more right and conservative than the middle of the GOP.  TP tend to be staunchly Christian and have issues of racism and anti-Islamic tendencies.  Multiple pundits contend moderate Republican Presidents from years ago would not be able to please the TP in this day and age.

I’ll leave the explaining to the more informed. Instead comment how appropriate the opera poo was! For all the mud slinging that is going on. 🙂

Republicans are basically Sociopathic with strong Narcissitic tendancies. Tea Partyers are mostly psychopathic with varying degrees of schizophrenia.

I agree with much of the analysis here. The Tea Party tries to capture the spirit of the early revolutionaries (hence the term “Tea Party”) but fails to appreciate the whole picture and that there are far more Americans who don’t quite agree with them. The Tea Party also doesn’t seem to want to compromise and has an unadulterated hatred for Presidmt Obama and will do their utmost to undermine him and get him voted out of office. They’re trying to create a “Third Party” but at best they’re just a radical offshoot of the GOP.

Yes with the elections on now, it is very interesting how they keep going with all the stuff thrown at one another.

Tea Party and Republicans used to be different factions in 2010, not so much any more.  We get the feeling there is a stampede to the right.  There used to exist “moderate republicans,” but they’re now extinct.

I like your blog not because it makes a lot of sense (it doesn’t) but because you’re an attractive, creative person.

A great website with interesting and unique material what else would you need.
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The Tea Party and the Republican Party are two separate things that happen to overlap and have found common cause. The Tea Party is really an ideological movement that started as a conservative, limited government, populist backlash against the Obama administration.  Their energy mobilized core supporters and helped the Republicans retake the House of Representatives in 2010.  They are not a part of the Republican Party, but they do represent the loudest faction within the Party with many of the freshmen representatives elected in 2010 affiliating themselves with this movement.

That being said, there is a lot of tension between the Tea Party and the Republican Party leadership.  For the Republicans who are used to tight party discipline, the Tea Party is a sort of rogue faction that while generating tremendous energy also creates more controversy.  The Tea Party has made an active campaign of trying to drive more traditional Republican incumbents out of office to replace them with more ideologically “pure” individuals in party primaries even if their candidates typically are “less electable” in a general election (losing precious seats).  Needless to say, this attitude of has not pleased the Republican leadership. There is a lot of conflict in the House as well, with the current Speaker, John Boehner, struggling tremendously to control them which creates problems when negotiating with the White House on budgetary and legislative issues.  In summary, they don’t trust each other with the GOP leadership afraid that the Tea Party is trying to co-opt the party, and the Tea Party thinking the GOP is not addressing their demands.

I would argue that the Democrats and their allies are also trying hard to blur the line between the Republicans and the Tea Party so they can pin the Tea Party’s crazier statements and excesses on the GOP.  Their hope is to scare moderate and unaffiliated voters by being able to paint even moderate candidates with the Tea Party label.

I’ve largely tuned out the bullshit and rhetoric from that side of the political spectrum, but from what I’ve seen, the Tea Party is about the equivalent of that uber-hardcore jihadist sect of Islam.  Granted they’re not going around and shooting the shit of out of everyone else, but if you read between the lines of what they espouse, they want to go back to this time where WASPs ruled the country (socially, politically, and economically), racism was rampant, and anyone who was not part of their racial and religious affinity were considered less than them.  I don’t agree with their views at all (largely because it seems they’ve never known anything else in their lives), though I can’t take their right to think it away either.  It is rather interesting to see how that social movement has taken the Republicans by the balls though, and held them and everything else hostage though.  Normally when dealing with someone who doesn’t hold the same opinion as you, one would find some common ground where neither side got everything they wanted, yet both got something and walked away somewhat happy.  In this case though, it seems that any step outside of the Tea Party marching orders, no matter the degree, is met with vitriol about being “un-American”, and some combination of other racially and politically-loaded terms.

You see these people on TV – because the media loves shitstorms, basket cases and train wreck – hollering about how Social Security is this evil, far-reaching effort by the government to take away the people’s money, yet they turn around and waves signs about not touching their Medicare.  Frankly, it’s scenes like this that lead me to believe the lot of them are rather narrowly-minded individuals, who don’t have much in the way of gray matter to utilize, and rely upon being told what to think and say.    My takeaway goes back to my original assertion: that these people don’t want their money going to others who don’t deserve it, but are more than happy to take handouts from the gov’t because it’s “theirs”, striking me as code for, “I’m white and you’re white, and we don’t want those other colors or religions on this land, taking money and jobs from other like-minded Americans.”  This launches into the much bigger issue of the role of immigrants and low-income workers in American society, not to mention the lack of general education and diversity in large swaths of the country, but that’s for another day.

Gotta love singing turds.

so… are you going to vote?

Quickie summary- Tea party movement began as a result of populist backlash against TARP, ie, Wall Street bailouts and growing govt deficits.

When Obama got elected with a Democrat sweep, the now largely ousted Republicans used the current anti-government populism and co-opted the movement to successfully use against the Democrats to win back the House.

The movement has led to the elimination of most moderate Republicans as compromise was replaced with take no prisoners negotiating.

The old guard Republicans realized they may have bitten off more than they could chew when the newly elected tea party candidates refuse to follow Republican leadership and threatened to push the US into default on its loans by not agreeing to the brokered budget plan. This was stated by S&P as the main reason why the US got a credit downgrade.

Rather than co-opting the tea party, it appeared that the tea party was now co-opting the Republicans as House Majority Leader Boehner struggled for control of his House members.

Whether they continue to grow or weaken will depend on future election successes/failures to see how they fare with mainstream voters.

is there any coffee party?

The Tea party was a grass roots group, mostly conservative, concerned with the rape of the constitution. It was quickly co-opted by the mainstream neo-cons, as they could see the real conservatives flocked to the Tea party. Ron Paul supporters were some of the ones that began it, from what I gather. Quickly, Sarah Palin was the face for awhile, as Paul was sqeezed out, and since then, it only seems to be a more conservative arm of the GOP, but thats likely a mainstream definition, meaning the singing turd makes more sense.

sounds like all you’re getting is people regurgitating the fecal matter they’ve consumed from their televisions. it’s funny how 100% of the allegedly racist incidences with the tea party were debunked with audio-visual evidence even to the point that early on one show claimed that all these “racist white people” were showing up to Obama’s appearances with guns and their example, whom they were zoomed in on, turned out to be black.

i don’t know everything about the tea party, and im sure there are things in there i would disagree with, but the fact of the matter is, the claims of racism and xenophobia have been factually dis-proven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TErw-Rtimac
this guy has plenty to say on the topic, and even when i disagree with what he says, he still says it well (you can check out his own channel machosauce productions or his website alfonsorachel.com).

best of luck sifting through the BS regurgitated by mental deficients.